Thus Spoke Zarathustra

Thus Spoke Zarathustra

Friedrich Nietzsche's most accessible and influential philosophical work, misquoted, misrepresented, brilliantly original and enormously influential, Thus Spoke Zarathustra is translated from the German by R.J. Hollingdale in Penguin Classics. Nietzsche was one of the most revolutionary and subversive thinkers in Western philosophy, and Thus Spoke Zarathustra remains his m...

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Title:Thus Spoke Zarathustra
Author:Friedrich Nietzsche
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ISBN:0140047484
Edition Language:English
Format Type:Paperback
Number of Pages:327 pages

Thus Spoke Zarathustra Reviews

  • Clint
    Aug 22, 2007

    It's like Jesus, but cooler.

  • Shawn
    May 10, 2008

    Horror movies never frightened me in the same way certain works of literature and film did. Reading through Zarathustra as a teenager was a singularly powerful experience; the work defies categorization or genre, time or place. I was warned that Nietzsche was dangerous for young readers (like Machiavelli) because he went insane. This I HAD to read. It was my first encounter with existential thought, a stinging critique of the very nature of values and belief. The events in the book are more like

    Horror movies never frightened me in the same way certain works of literature and film did. Reading through Zarathustra as a teenager was a singularly powerful experience; the work defies categorization or genre, time or place. I was warned that Nietzsche was dangerous for young readers (like Machiavelli) because he went insane. This I HAD to read. It was my first encounter with existential thought, a stinging critique of the very nature of values and belief. The events in the book are more like Biblical parables than a plot unfolding, except that the lesson is not, "Thou Shalt" but "Why should I?" I wish I could read German well enough to understand the nuances of Nietzsche's original narrative. Full of surreal visions, Zarathustra is a challenge to interpret but at the same time, lacks the semantics of conventional philosophy that makes the field inaccessible for many young students. So many things are explored, celebrated or indicted with ambitious and sharp leaps of metaphors: Moral relativism, comparative theology and eternal recurrence, nothing short of the love of life, the will to life. Many fascinating discussions have explored what could have influenced Nietzsche: the social milieu of late 19th century Europe, the contradictions of Enlightenment thought, etc. Thus Spoke Zarathustra will forever retain its mystery and is a monument to Nietzsche's eccentricity.

  • بثينة العيسى
    Oct 29, 2009

    في قراءتي الأولى للكتاب خلال سنوات الجامعة كنتُ أبحث عن دهشة اللغة على ما يبدو. في قراءتي هذه كنتُ أبحث عن فكر نيتشه. يحسب له - قطعاً - سعيه الدؤوب نحو قلقلة وهدم والتشكيك في كل شيء، ويحسب له أيضاً حبه للتجاوز وتأكيده على ضرورة تفوق الإنسان على نفسه، إلا أن ..

    المنهج الذي يقترحه من أجل وصول الإنسان الحالي إلى الإنسان الأعلى مبنية على سحق الآخر / الضعيف، وضرورة موته. الناس كلهم " رعاع " في نظر زرادشت نيتشه، وينبغي أن يمضون إلى حتفهم لأجل أن يكونوا جسراً للآتين. الفكر ذاته الذي كرسته محارق الهولوكو

    في قراءتي الأولى للكتاب خلال سنوات الجامعة كنتُ أبحث عن دهشة اللغة على ما يبدو. في قراءتي هذه كنتُ أبحث عن فكر نيتشه. يحسب له - قطعاً - سعيه الدؤوب نحو قلقلة وهدم والتشكيك في كل شيء، ويحسب له أيضاً حبه للتجاوز وتأكيده على ضرورة تفوق الإنسان على نفسه، إلا أن ..

    المنهج الذي يقترحه من أجل وصول الإنسان الحالي إلى الإنسان الأعلى مبنية على سحق الآخر / الضعيف، وضرورة موته. الناس كلهم " رعاع " في نظر زرادشت نيتشه، وينبغي أن يمضون إلى حتفهم لأجل أن يكونوا جسراً للآتين. الفكر ذاته الذي كرسته محارق الهولوكوست وجرائم حرب هتلر من أجل الارتقاء بالإنسان من خلال " الألمان " .. الممارسات التي استخدمت في أوروبا لقتل المرضى الميؤوس من حالهم لأن " الموت بكرامة أفضل عندما تتعذر الحياة بكرامة " ..

    نيتشه مليء بالاحتقار والقرف. هو يحتقر الدين / الشعر / الإنسان / السعادة، ولكنه يكن احتراماً عظيماً للضحك والرقص. تقولُ لي صديقة : عندما أقرأ نيتشه أضحك، وأنا أعترف بأنه ساخر دائماً ومضحك في أحايين كثيرة .. ولكن أنا شخصياً عندما أقرأه أخاف.

    كل فكر يكرس العنصرية ويحط من الإنسان مخيف.

    قيل لي: اقرئيه في زمنه وفي سياقه التاريخي ..

    وأنا أتساءل إن كان هذا السياق التاريخي يبرر لنيتشه أن يحتقر إنساننا القديم؟ أليست هناك قيم كونية على الإطلاق؟

    طبعاً، أنا بحكم نيتشه متخلفة جداً لمجرد أنني أتحدث عن " قيم " .. ولكنني ككاتبة لا أستطيع إلا الانتصار للإنسان بكل حدوده وقصوره وقلة حيلته.

  • Riku Sayuj
    Feb 04, 2011

    Verily have I overshot myself in my vanity into thinking that I was ready to attempt this book. Humbled am I now.

    I probably got less than one-third of what Nietzsche was fulminating on. Maybe in another two reading or so... maybe with a different translation... ?

    Can anyone who has read this help me out? Is the second half of the book just plain abstruse or was it just me?

  • مؤيد المزين
    May 14, 2011

    يووووووووووووووه يوه يوه يوه ،، سأرقص ، إنه وقت الرقص والرقص والرقص

    هل تتوقعون أن زرادشت نيتشه ، سيهتم بالتقييم والتعليق هنا ، لا لا لا أظن إطلاقا ،، فلهُ مخرجه

    ولكنّه لو رآني وحروفي نرقص ، لأقبل ملتويا على رأسه راقصا ،، :)))))))))))))) ٠

    تجربة رائعة ، إعراجية ، أستمتعت بالقراءة وإرادة القرآءة لهذاالزرادشت من ترجمتين ، الأولى علي مصباح ، والأخرى لفليكس فارس ٠

    بابٌ هُنا وبابٌ هُناك ، مُحاولاً فكّ الرموز والتشبيهات تارة ، مُندهشاً أُخرى ، مُسرّحا ثالثة ، مصفوقاً كثيرا

    تجربة ممتعة

    الكتاب -بإختصار- مركز إ

    يووووووووووووووه يوه يوه يوه ،، سأرقص ، إنه وقت الرقص والرقص والرقص

    هل تتوقعون أن زرادشت نيتشه ، سيهتم بالتقييم والتعليق هنا ، لا لا لا أظن إطلاقا ،، فلهُ مخرجه

    ولكنّه لو رآني وحروفي نرقص ، لأقبل ملتويا على رأسه راقصا ،، :)))))))))))))) ٠

    تجربة رائعة ، إعراجية ، أستمتعت بالقراءة وإرادة القرآءة لهذاالزرادشت من ترجمتين ، الأولى علي مصباح ، والأخرى لفليكس فارس ٠

    بابٌ هُنا وبابٌ هُناك ، مُحاولاً فكّ الرموز والتشبيهات تارة ، مُندهشاً أُخرى ، مُسرّحا ثالثة ، مصفوقاً كثيرا

    تجربة ممتعة

    الكتاب -بإختصار- مركز إشعاع نووي مُختص بإطلاق الإرادة الناعسة لمُستقبل أرقى٠

    لاتسألوني أي مُستقبل ؟ مُستقبل الفرد ؟ أم المجتمع ؟ لا أعرف ،، فهو كتاب للجميع ولغيرِ أحد

    سأعود للرقص حتى أسقط

    :))))))))))))))))))

  • Aubrey
    Feb 25, 2012

    There is a great deal of Nietzsche that I agree with, and hoards with which I vehemently do not. I've been accumulating quotes of his for five years now, quotes whose inherent lack of context made me like him more than I do now. I still love many of his phrases as much as I did before, but if we ever met, we would not like each other

    .

    Despite that muddle, I am gratefu

    There is a great deal of Nietzsche that I agree with, and hoards with which I vehemently do not. I've been accumulating quotes of his for five years now, quotes whose inherent lack of context made me like him more than I do now. I still love many of his phrases as much as I did before, but if we ever met, we would not like each other

    .

    Despite that muddle, I am grateful that I came across his words while I was younger and in the full throes of depression, cynicism, and a frighteningly homicidal brand of solipsism. I didn't know the definition of that last word back then, but I was in desperate need of something both horribly dismal and blindingly bright, a joy that did not require avoidance of despair but looked it full in the face. The often contextualized and paraphrased Nietzsche with atheism, nihilism, and yet fierce and glorious fervor for the future seemed perfect back then.

    To some extent, he's still perfect, but only in bits and pieces. The call for solitude and individualism is as refreshing as ever, the atheism is still in line with my sensibilities, and the breathtaking vaults and shuddering descents carried my heart along with them. However. While I did indeed run across his cry for the Superman, even going so far as to take to heart his '

    I paid as much mind to his Superman as concerned my younger self's view of the world and the people in it as utterly worthless. Not until this reading did I fully realize Nietzsche's meaning; being as interested in social justice and, well, female as I am, there was little chance of me passing up all that elitism (and classism?) and condemnation of empathy and rapier dashes of virulent misogyny.

    It's strange, though. Perhaps it is a sign of just how much time I spent mooning after Nietzsche, back when I took him in small doses, but I am especially conscious of the time period in which he wrote this. His decrying of the "mob" echoes my own views regarding oppressive ideologies, and I have to wonder how much of his rampant condemnation of popular mentality fell upon the people rather than the ideas they lived by. As for his abysmal portrayal of women, who knows what a healthy dose of feminism and exposure to such awesome thinkers as

    ,

    , and so many others would have accomplished. Probably gotten rid of his 'creator's pregnancy' conceit (if you're going to slander, Nietzsche, back off from the ridiculously disproportionate appropriation please), if nothing else. Also, there is the matter of his one serious attempt at heterosexual love having been rejected right around the time of composition of this piece. It doesn't excuse him at all, but it does explain his vitriol some.

    All of that above is wishful thinking, of course, but seeing as this is

    enigmatic rhapsodizer on the subject of wishful thinking, it's more than merited. For all of Nietzsche's aggravating inegalitarianism, he captured the rapid fire oscillation between top of the world and descent into hell so perfectly, so utterly, and then crafted with it a raison d'être both deathly serious and blissfully rapturous. There's no small amount of nihilism in his dismissal of everything solid, everyone stationary, everything decrepit and outdated and finally after long last proved false, but there's a spitfire life to it that laughs at self-serving pandering and loves chaotic progress that I myself cannot forbear from adoring and making my own.

    I shall keep this in mind, Nietzsche, if nothing else. Not all of what your Zarathustra spoke rings true to me, but you are one of the few who favored freedom over advice. For that, I am in your debt.

    P.S. This particular edition was great. I have no clue about the quality of the translation, but the introduction and endnotes, endnotes that included all those untranslateable bits with as much explanation as possible, were indispensable.

  • Huda Yahya
    May 12, 2012

    كلمة أخيرة

    لا يقرأن أحدكم ترجمة فليكس فارس ‏

    فهي الشناعة بعينها

    اللهم قد بلغت

    كل من ترجمتي علي مصباح و محمد الناجي طيبتين‏

    ولكن نسخة على مصباح تستدعي منك ترك المقدمة تماما

    لأنها تحوي كما من العنجهية ربما ستتسبب في إلقائك الكتاب من النافذة ‏قبل البدء فيه

  • Szplug
    Apr 25, 2013

    How you liking

    apples, Jede-fucking-diah?!

    Thus spoke Barnaby Jones.

    I read this book back around 2001 or 2002. I wasn't much concerned with writing reviews back then—and how weird is

    ?—but, deeming Nietzsche a pretty smart guy, I scribbled down a bunch of notes and quotes. Since I've not a single review by Friedrich N. at this place, I thought, in lieu of anything more insightful or intelligent, to copy those notes out below, verbatim. And after having done so, I'm not quite sure what I

    How you liking

    apples, Jede-fucking-diah?!

    Thus spoke Barnaby Jones.

    I read this book back around 2001 or 2002. I wasn't much concerned with writing reviews back then—and how weird is

    ?—but, deeming Nietzsche a pretty smart guy, I scribbled down a bunch of notes and quotes. Since I've not a single review by Friedrich N. at this place, I thought, in lieu of anything more insightful or intelligent, to copy those notes out below, verbatim. And after having done so, I'm not quite sure what I had hoped to accomplish with such a meager collection of peanut shells. [

    ]. But what are you going to do? Perhaps someone, somewhere, somehow, will find something in 'em that makes

    more appealing than it might otherwise have been, and that would be just bully for me.

    *

    That which man must become in order to overcome himself and/or nature.

    The Creator is also an annihilator—he must be cruel to break old values and create new ones.

    is promised happiness—but who will lead and who will obey? Everyone is the same, and those who are different are

    . The

    invented

    .

    Man created God in order to look away from everything. God suffers too, and is thus imperfect like his creators. Man hated the body, and so created spirit. Man hated the Earth, and so created Heaven.

    .

    will reclaim man for the Earth.

    Those with the courage to fight for their beliefs have helped mankind far more than priests who meekly accept the ideas of others.

    Using other people as a prop to make them feel virtuous. Groups of virtuous people feeling

    can do great evil to strangers whom they should love too.

    Those who truly love are

    —and thus

    and

    and

    .

    Do not let virtues, good and evil, limit your fulfillment as a

    .

    and do not get lost in the heavens seeking away from yourself and the body.

    Nietzsche says

    but he constantly refers to angels and magic creatures: is he creating a new religion of the

    ? Of

    ?

    Nietzsche's Zarathustra has doubts about the future—he is worried about learning for learning's sake; education imparting a love of

    .

    Nietzsche also frequently mentions his

    , which chokes him like a snake. It's always the ejection of that which sustains life brought about by life's own unsettling essence and energies.

    Do not be more concerned with morals than with being men. Perfect safety and happiness makes for small minds and petty pursuits.

    The old gods laughed themselves to death when the

    proclaimed one god only. Laughter and prankishness are very important to Nietzsche—it keeps him from acting out of revenge.

    The creator is not bound by the limits imposed by others. Their

    is so small: from small men with small virtues.

    The great enemy of man is the

    , which from birth holds men down with Good and Evil and Virtues. Man must soar his own way, making his own values. There is no correct

    way or path for all men: that this is so is one of

    lies.

    The

    is the old devil, and Zarathustra's enemy, for he brings constraint–statute–necessity–consequence, purpose and will, good and evil.

    . They give in—those who heed commands do not heed themselves.

    The warring of despots and of democracy. The despot will distort the past to make it lead to

    . The rabble with drown the past in shallow waters: forget the past after a pair of generations.

    The Good and the Just must be pharisees. The good are always the beginning of the end. They want to crucify all creators; to the breakers of tablets, the Good sacrifice the future for

    .

    Zarathustra continues to be assailed by episodes of choking on the snake of nausea. All men, even the creator, must fight their nausea of the world.

    Zarathustra, through love of nature, has accepted his love of eternity and the eternal re-occurrence. Now in Part IV, as he has overcome his nausea of the eternal re-occurrence, he faces his final trial:

    .

    All great lovers are great despisers. All creators are hard, all great love is over and beyond pity. All great success has gone to the well-persecuted. All those who persecute well learn readily how to

    .

    The small men ask only:

    They are concerned solely with small virtues. The Overman wants not to

    man, but to

    man.

    Nietzsche constantly stresses the need for laughter and to laugh at one self: to

    . The archenemy is always the

    .

    The greater the creator, the greater the evil. But wash off the stain after you have created. Birth is never pleasant.

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